Friday, February 15, 2008

Olbermann special comment on Fisa bill contortions & telecom immunity

There is a lot of solid logic presented in this special comment -- as well as some very specific info about the telecom spying. Remember Mark Klein, the AT&T whistleblower? Yeah, I'd forgotten about him as well.



[thanks Media Monarchy for pointing this one out]

Enjoy the refreshing feeling of truthful invective,

Bp

9 comments:

Stu Farnham said...

Hooray for Obermann! It is *so* refreshing to hear someone in the media take a stand which is true and courageous. The right-wing outlets pander to their audiences; it takes courage to speak out the way that Oberman does.

A cheer, albeit less enthusiastic, for the House of Representatives.

4 said...

Holy cow. That was ballsy.

Stu Farnham said...

BTW, while I agree with Obermann's description of the current administration as fascist, that term is widely misused and misunderstood.

From Britannica Online: "Although fascist parties and movements differed significantly from each other, they had many characteristics in common, including extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism, a belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites, and the desire to create a Volksgemeinschaft (German: “people's community”), in which individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation."

Yep, sounds like the Bushies to me.

Bpaul said...

I've been quoting one or another dictionary definition of fascism for years now. I agree completely.

Marty said...

Sorry, I have problems paying much attention to someone who goes from a report on Congress to another Britney update. He should go back to the one thing he could do, making up catchy nicknames for sports figures.

Marty said...

I thought I should expound a bit on my reply above, as I have noticed I have become a bit of a plain naysayer, where I would rather be a naysayer with conviction.

I dislike Keith Olbermann and his style of "reporting". Actually that isn't true, I think Olbermann is an intelligent and funny person sometimes. But his "reporting" methods leave something to be desired. He tends to paint pictures with only the colors he chooses to include. He has turned into "Mr. Infotainment".

Bpaul and I had a bit of a discussion a while back about the death of reporting. Much of the national media tends to editorialize instead of just reporting the facts as they are known. And Mr. Infotainment is just the tip of the iceberg.

Bpaul said...

I do think that as far as media in the U.S. goes -- he is a counterweight to a whole lot of gasbags on the "other side of the aisle."

So although I don't enjoy the yelling and screaming very often, the fact that he's biased the way he is to me is fine. He doesn't hide it, and neither do the guys on the other side of the aisle. As long as folks are out about it, editorializing is ok with me.

It's the Fox news bullshit where they slip in editorial comments into normal news with sneaky shit like "some would say.... [enter blatantly editorial comment here]" that really pisses me off. They write it up like it's not editorial, but it absolutely is... it's commentary ON the news, not news itself.

As annoying as the polarization is, I'm ok with Olbermann balancing things out a bit -- without him there are only gassbags on the right in media, and that's not balanced.

Marty said...

Ok, here is where we disagree. Lol, like that hasn't happened before.

I see it that the mainstream media outlets are EXTREMELY left of center, with Olbermann just being a glaring example. MSNBC, The Clinton News Network, the New York Times, and the largest circulation paper in the country, USA Today, all being both liberal and either not caring or believing that they aren't. Ironically, USA Today's editorial section seems be the best balanced part of the paper.

People complain about conservative talk radio, but at least they acknowledge and don't profess to be anything other than opinion and editorial.

Bpaul said...

It's all good -- we've disagreed for years and gotten along just dandy.